Is Respecting Aspec Identities Really So Difficult?

Image description: Sasappis, one of the ghosts from the comedy series Ghosts, who is witty, drama-loving, creative... and, as the show is eager to keep reminding us, a virgin (gasp!). While I love Ghosts for its clever writing and tons of heart, watching Sas be treated as an oddity throughout season four due to not having had a romantic or sexual relationship was deeply frustrating and got me asking what feels like an age-old question: Is it really that hard to respect aspec identities?

I have been talking about aspec issues for quite some time now. During the course of my over five years of blogging and my well over one hundred posts, it’s probably quite easy to look at some of the things I discuss and think to yourself “it’s not that deep.” I admit, even I sometimes think the same thing and I wonder quite often if I’m blowing some of these issues out of proportion. What’s the big deal if a single character with unconfirmed aspec tendencies gets told they should start dating? Who cares if someone uses “normal” to refer to a romantic or sexual relationship, or there’s a sex scene or other sexual element in something that was never sexual before? Does it really always have to be that deep? Do these things actually matter?

I would argue that, yes, they absolutely do. While a lot of the things I discuss on this blog may seem like trivialities that I’m nitpicking, these things do add up – even if they seem otherwise small and insignificant. This is because aspec identities are still struggling, not only for visibility, but for basic respect in many cases, and these instances of subtle aphobia or dismissal can be like death by a thousand cuts. I am routinely astonished by how often media blatantly disrespects aspec identities, or even just the idea of being non-sexual and/or non-romantic, even in otherwise diverse pieces of media, and it makes me wonder why it seems so difficult to afford these identities even just a modicum of basic respect.

This question is not easy or straightforward to answer, and I believe there are many different possible answers as to why it seems so difficult for people – and especially popular media – to respect aspec identities, as well as non-sexual and non-romantic characters of all kinds. I’ve highlighted many examples of this on my blog over the years, from the casual bigotry of how Sheldon Cooper is treated on The Big Bang Theory to the blatant ignorance of the writing team behind Sherlock to the habitual blindspot that seemed to plague the developers of the Dragon Age series for years. And yet, these problems are still alive and well in current media, a fact which proved to me that I need to look at this topic yet again and in greater depth, exploring why it seems so strangely difficult for media to treat asexuality, aromanticism, and their related identities with the decency they deserve.

Spoiler warning! 

Ghosts (various episodes, especially throughout season 4)

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The Problem with “Ghosts”

To start, I’d like to zero in on the current piece of media that got me thinking more in depth about this topic in the first place – the comedy series Ghosts, and especially its character Sasappis. Ghosts is a show I’ve talked about a few times on the blog – in fact, the first time I discussed it, I mentioned that I actually considered the show a piece of “Ace Safe Space” media because, despite some of its more ribald jokes, the show had a wholesome core past all that. In that original post, I mention that Ghosts came to me during a very difficult time in my life and made me laugh, so it always holds a special place in my heart, even when it doesn’t quite seem to love me back.

Unfortunately, despite how great and wholesome Ghosts can be, there are plenty of instances where I feel the show veers off course. Rather frustratingly, sometimes both of these things can be true within the same episode, and a prime example of this is the 2024 Christmas episode. If you’ve never seen the show or heard me talk about it, Ghosts is about a young woman named Sam who gains the ability to see ghosts after a near-death experience. This especially applies to the quirky cast of spirits dwelling in the house that was bequeathed to Sam and her husband Jay after the death of one of Sam’s relatives, and the show details the hilarious shenanigans that occur between Sam, Jay, and the diverse ghosts.

As is often true with any episode of Ghosts (and any good piece of media in general), this episode features several different storylines running in parallel, and as such, we see both the good and the bad play out in very stark ways. On the wholesome front, the main plotline for the episode involves Jay accidentally getting possessed by one of the ghosts, Pete, who takes advantage of having human form to go visit his daughter and grandson. The way Pete reacts to finally being able to hug his daughter after decades is so genuinely sweet and perfectly Christmas-appropriate that it’s effortlessly tear-jerking, and perfectly encapsulates what the show can be at its best. But what are the other ghosts doing during this main plot?

The episode’s B-plot, clearly meant for comedic relief, centers on the character of Sasappis, who you may remember me discussing in my most recent “Quirky Aspec Headcanons” post. One of the original ghosts on the property, the dry, drama-loving Native American ghost from the Lenai Lenapi tribe is one of my favorite characters in the show, but is also one of the least fleshed-out ghosts when it comes to knowing much of anything about his backstory. One thing we’ve been able to imply, as I discuss in that headcanons post, is that Sas most likely never had a steady relationship during his life. Although he harbored affections for another Lenai Lenapi named Shiki, he never approached her while he was alive, and even in death, he proves to be unlucky in love. In this episode, we get confirmation that Sas died a virgin, thanks to Thor – a Viking ghost and the only ghost on the property who has been around longer than Sas – telling Flower about it.

Flower, who in life was a stereotypical free-love hippie whose sexuality is played up, is of course appalled by what she dubs Sas’s terrible and embarrassing fate. Because the ghosts can have sex (something I’ve always found equal parts bizarre and uncomfy), she takes it upon herself to try and fix Sas up with anyone who is willing, which of course proves to Sas that Thor has revealed this secret and leaves him feeling rightfully hurt and betrayed. While the show does allow for Sas to feel these things and even portrays that feeling of hurt as valid, this is nevertheless played for laughs at several points, pretty much always as Sas’s expense.

There is, of course, a lot I hate about this plotline – so much so that I actually started writing notes for this post while I was still watching the episode. But I think perhaps the most frustrating thing about this plot with Sas is that even it manages to have sweet and wholesome moments despite how problematic the rest of the plot is, chiefly when it comes to Thor and Sas’s relationship. Thor realizes that revealing this secret was wrong and deeply hurtful to Sas, while Sas meanwhile remembers how much it meant to have Thor’s friendship back when he had newly become a ghost, recalling how Thor even went out of his way to learn Lenapi to be able to communicate with Sas. It’s a sweet story, and had it ended there, I might have been able to be okay with it.

Image description: Viking ghost Thor with Sasappis, easily one of my favorite odd-couple friendships in Ghosts.

But the 2024 Christmas episode is only the beginning of a plot with Sas that ran through the rest of the season. Building off of Flower’s meddling, the entire cast of ghosts – and even Sam and Jay to a certain extent – begin pitying Sas, not just for being unlucky in love, but specifically being a virgin. For several episodes, trying to “get Sas laid” becomes a recurring B-plot or even just a throwaway joke at times, and these jokes are always used to make Sas feel uncomfortable. It got to the point where even reviewers who weren’t zeroing in on this plotline due to concerns of aphobia found these jokes overplayed and generally mean-spirited (no pun intended).

Once the jokes started, I knew they were likely to end in only one way – Sas was going to have sex with someone at some point, and it was just a matter of who and when. So it was not a surprise to me when the show introduced a ghostly girlfriend for Sas in the form of Joan, a screenwriter from the Golden Age of Hollywood, who is able to travel rather than being tethered to her place of death, making her accessible to Sas – unlike Shiki, who is tethered elsewhere. However, at one point, Sas becomes uncertain of Joan and more certain of Shiki, and while these things make a lot more sense in conjunction with the plot, I find it amusing that the show’s most aphobic plot accidentally makes Sas even more aspec for a brief period of time.

The show of course likes to frame Sas being a virgin as him being unlucky in love, but I would argue that Sas’s interest in Shiki, both in life and in death, make a good case for him being demisexual and/or demiromantic. To be clear, despite this and Sas’s very aspec-coded moments in earlier seasons of the show – as well as my inclusion of him in my list of aspec headcanon characters – I always knew that he would never be allowed to be aspec, nor did I expect it. Although I find it ironic that the show came close to letting him be aspec without even realizing, Sas not being aspec or having a girlfriend are not really the issues here. Rather, the main issue is the way the show frames Sas’s sexual inexperience.

As I mentioned earlier, this element of Sas’s personality became such a focus for several episodes, that jokes regarding it were present in nearly every episode from the Christmas special onward. Like other non-romantic and non-sexual characters in comedies before him – Sheldon Cooper in The Big Bang Theory comes to mind – the way the rest of the ensemble cast treats Sas because of his sexual inexperience conveys not only how the characters are supposed to feel, but how the writers and creative team behind the show likewise feel.

Image description: Another image of Sas in Ghosts

In an interview with the website TVLine, Sas’s actor Roman Zaragoza discusses the short love triangle between Sas, Joan, and Shiki, expanding on the plotline with observations that are actually pretty astute about Sas as a character. However, later in the interview, his thoughts on Sas being a virgin admittedly have me scratching my head a little. When asked, he mentions that it was his idea to have Sas be a virgin, something which the showrunners agreed with, but also discusses how it seemed like the showrunners were worried he might find it “weird” or that it might be a struggle for him as an actor. Personally, I find these descriptions to be the weird thing, and also a little frustrating.

When we look at these descriptions, it puts all the jokes at Sas’s expense into context. Clearly there was a sentiment that Sas being a virgin was an oddity, so much so that they were worried it might make the actor playing him uncomfortable, as if being sexually inexperienced is something that people have to wear as a mark of shame. To me, it’s such a big missed opportunity to have that be how this plotline played out, instead of allowing this to be something Sas was able to own as a part of himself, even if he wasn’t aspec per se. Instead, the show allowed Sas to be ridiculed for this fact, with characters implying that it’s sad and pathetic that he’s never had sex, or else treating him like a child because of it. Of course, treating non-sexual and/or non-romantic characters as children is one of the earliest tropes I explored on this blog, so while it’s not surprising to see the others treat Sas like this, it is disheartening.

But ironically enough, the fact that Sas actually does seem to be quite young should have been taken into account. While Sas’s age is never really confirmed one way or another – and he’s certainly not a child nor should he be treated like one – it seems to be implied that Sas died before he was able to reach many major life milestones. More than that, while an actor’s age of course doesn’t mean their character is the same age, Sas’s actor Roman Zaragoza was born in 1996 (meaning he’s actually younger than I am!). Given Ghosts began in 2021, he certainly couldn’t be more than 25 when the show started filming, and thus we can potentially imply that Sas is supposed to be around that age, give or take a few years.

Although people can, of course, have their first sexual encounter at any age, not having had sex in one’s early to mid-twenties is really not that strange, despite the show trying to imply it is, and so it actually becomes a little creepy when some of the chronologically older ghosts mock him for this inexperience. This whole thing also becomes extra ironic when you consider how the show then also treats Sas like a much older virgin given he’s been dead for so long. In my opinion, this is perhaps an example of the show wanting to have its comedic cake and eat it too, treating Sas both as a child and as a sort of “40-year-old virgin” stand-in at the same time – something that was all but confirmed to me when I read the article I reference earlier in the post, in which the author mentions that Sas’s eventual sexual encounter does in fact make references to the film The 40-year old Virgin.

Again, am I surprised that the show eventually has Sas get sexual with Joan? No, I can’t say I was. Once the jokes started, I knew they wouldn’t stop until Sas was no longer a virgin, since the show was determined to treat his virginity as a “problem.” Thus, when Sas finally does have his first sexual encounter with Joan in the penultimate episode of the season, I of course felt disappointed, but also somewhat grateful that this will hopefully put an end to the jokes at his expense. But I also knew, above all, that this entire arc had given me a topic that I desperately need to discuss in greater depth.

A Lack of Respect

As I’ve said before on the blog, I can, on some level, understand why it’s difficult to portray aspec identities in media. Especially when a piece of media is not specifically about a character wrestling with that part of themselves and instead features this part of them as simply one part of the whole, it can be tough to adequately portray these elements to everyone’s satisfaction. However, when it comes to instances of blatant disrespect against not only aspec identities, but also just non-romantic and/or non-sexual characters – or virgin characters like Sas – this is not something I can easily reconcile or explain. And, as I’ve said many times before, this becomes even more frustrating when a piece of media is otherwise diverse, as is the case in Ghosts.

Ghosts is not ignorant of diversity and several characters or plotlines openly celebrate the diversity of their characters. Isaac is a gay man who, due to living during the American Revolution, had to keep his identity secret until Sam and the other ghosts help him come out and admit his feelings for Nigel, a British soldier whom he knew during his lifetime and who also lives on the property. Their romance went so far as to see the two almost get married. Flower routinely discusses having both male and female sexual partners and, although this is clearly played for laughs and to fit into the notion of her being a stereotypical hippie, it’s not something the show ever shies away from. Nancy, one of the “basement ghosts,” not only likewise is shown to be comfortable with both male and female partners, but a short-lived plot of the show features her, Flower, and Thor in a polyamorous “throuple.” Meanwhile, there are other same-sex couples – both among the ghosts and among the living around Sam and Jay – who have appeared in the show on numerous occasions.

And yet, despite all this terrific diversity, we have Sas being mocked and treated like a child simply due to being a virgin. Setting aside my own personal headcanons or aspec concerns, this is not okay, especially in a show that otherwise seems to strive to be open and tolerant. Usually, when the show pokes fun at the ghosts, it is more poking fun at specific stereotypical attributes about them, such as Thor being hilariously and glibly gruesome because he’s a Viking, Flower being spacy to play on the stereotype of hippies and recreational drugs, or Trevor being an oversexed finance bro. The sex lives of the ghosts have always been allowed to be part of the joke – as I mentioned earlier with Flower – but rarely do these jokes come at the expense of the ghosts themselves.

Image description: All the main ghosts of the show, all of whom are friends with each other and usually support each other in heartfelt and funny ways - which makes the treatment of Sas in season four all the more baffling.

For instance, earlier in the series there were several plots about Hetty, the manor’s Victorian era ghost, being sexually repressed, again to play on the stereotype that Victorians would even see a glimpse of ankle as scandalous. Helping Hetty embrace her sexuality was played for laughs, certainly, but it was also meant to be seen as a sort of empowerment for her, taking back her sexuality from the confines of her society. While there are problems to be had with this portrayal for sure, which I discuss in another post, it doesn’t seem like we’re meant to laugh at Hetty during this journey.

But the jokes in the Christmas episode and beyond absolutely do come at Sas’s expense. Even if they’re not meant to diminish Sas as a character in our eyes or make us dislike him, the way he’s treated and disrespected by the other characters and thus by the show’s writers is honestly baffling to me. Like I said, although I wasn’t exactly expecting the show to make Sas aspec – and indeed assumed that at some point they would probably erase his aspec tendencies – I certainly wasn’t expecting there to be an entire plotline essentially dedicated to making fun of him for these tendencies, and that’s where the real issue lies.

Originally, I had intended for this post to be a much broader look at the blatant disrespect media seems to have for aspec people, and instead it largely ended up focusing on Ghosts and on Sas’s plotline in particular. But honestly, my entire blog seems to be built on the theme of how non-sexual and/or non-romantic characters get disrespected, and I therefore think my heavy focus on Ghosts was essential because of how recent it is and how well it makes my point. That being said, however, I would like to expand my analysis briefly to point out why I think this disrespect is allowed to go on.

Diving Deeper

As mentioned earlier, I acknowledge that such representation can actually be very difficult. I understand the challenges that exist when it comes to writing good aspec characters or when it comes to trying to honor all the identities on this very broad spectrum, and that there will likely be bugs to work out as media attempts to reconcile these differences. But although basic representation may be difficult to get right, I can’t help but ask: is basic respect really so difficult? Is it really so hard to accept that some people, even if they’re not aspec, might not want sex or romance in their life? Why is it such a struggle to treat these people with human decency and not assume they’re somehow lacking?

While it can indeed be hard to pinpoint exactly why respect seems so difficult to come by, I believe there are several reasons why media doesn’t seem concerned with respecting these identities. While sometimes this answer can be as simple and pedantic as the age-old excuse that “sex sells,” I think the issue is a bit more complicated than that. It’s not just that sex sells, which of course it does, but what I tend to see in media is the determination to downplay things that are non-sexual and/or non-romantic so that buying into sex and/or romance ends up being the only option.

This is done in a few different ways. One of the most obvious is simply by pretending these things don’t exist, which is why we still see people doubting that asexuality and its related identities are even a thing, or why people who do not prioritize sex and/or romance are treated as if something is wrong with them. Whenever these attitudes are allowed to exist, they are nevertheless made unappealing chiefly through the act of making them look childish, antiquated, or even downright bigoted; I believe this is why we sometimes see non-sexual and/or non-romantic characters treated so poorly even in otherwise diverse media.

One of the best examples I can think of to summarize and explain this phenomenon is “Canticle,” an episode of the British detective series Endeavour. In this episode, the titular main character is asked to guard a local moral crusader named Joy Pettybon, whose upcoming appearance on a TV show is being met with death threats. Joy’s crusade primarily centers on the music of a young pop group called The Wildwood, which she considers to be immoral. When she finally does make her appearance on the TV show, she describes one of the group’s songs by saying “It’s about S-E-X” and decries that “it’s disgusting.”

Everything about Joy is designed to be an unpleasant stereotype. From her look to her manner of speech to her desire for censorship, she is what most people would likely picture when thinking about anyone who raises concerns about sex in media. Although some of her objections to the music come from its use of swear words, based on the above scene and how she is concerned with “decency,” it’s clear the show intended this, and wanted Joy to be seen as a stereotypical “prude”.

Image description: Joy Pettybon in the Endeavour episode "Canticle." While most of the substance of this post has been about Ghosts and thus most of the pictures have been from Ghosts as well, I simply had to include a picture of Joy to visibly demonstrate what I'm talking about in this section.

In the case of the episode, it’s supposed to be a commentary on the complicated social interplay of the 1960s, during which enforced morality clashed with the newer ideas of self-expression as presented by counterculture movements of the time. While it’s a bit heavy-handed to have a slightly Beatles-esque band going toe-to-toe with a self-proclaimed Christian morality crusader, the episode does play out that struggle rather unabashedly. My issue is not with the fact that they chose to explore this dynamic, nor even that they chose to portray it in this way. Rather, I dislike that Joy being portrayed as ignorant and repressed reinforces the idea that people who don’t want oversexualization in media are also like this.

To put it bluntly, this is a prime example of why it’s so difficult to analyze media and discuss aspec issues: the minute you mention oversexualization, you begin to sound like Joy Pettybon, and most people treat you the same way she is treated in the episode – even though most of us who bring up these issues wouldn’t even agree with someone like Joy. This is because a lot of people like her exist, to the point where portraying her in media is easy, since so many people have met someone like her. Intentionally or not, having any critique of oversexualization be portrayed in ways that bring an old moral crusading busybody to mind makes it difficult to ever have a true conversation. Furthermore, the reluctance to discuss these things makes it even more easy to assume they’re “not that deep,” which makes it even more impossible to talk openly about them, creating a vicious circle.

This inability to talk openly about these problems leads to the other reason why it’s so easy for this disrespect to keep continuing – the idea that these things are just jokes and don’t really matter. A lot of times, jokes about aspec or aspec adjacent characters are treated like they don’t have an impact outside of the media itself, as if these remarks begin and end with these characters and won’t affect anyone else. This is the same type of attitude I see all the time in online fandom spaces, where people say aphobic things (either knowingly or unknowingly) and think it isn’t a problem because they’re not saying these things about or against any specific person.

But jokes and remarks that disadvantage non-sexual and/or non-romantic people are damaging whether or not they carry specificity – precisely because they demonstrate an unwillingness to show these identities basic respect. If media is willing to make fun of a character for being non-sexual, like Ghosts did with Sas, and if fans find those jokes hilarious, what’s stopping them from reproducing those attitudes in their day-to-day life, or worse, making those jokes themselves?

On the opposite extreme, imagine what would happen if fans decided they didn’t want to engage in that lack of respect. For me, seeing that some fans of Ghosts actually disliked the jokes at Sas’s expense and wanted them to stop was a surprising silver lining. While that doesn’t erase the fact that the show did this in the first place, of course, it gives me hope that maybe people can become more aware of why these things are hurtful. There’s nothing wrong with a character being sexual or having romantic relationships, but there’s also nothing wrong with a character not having those things, and I think it’s time media embraced true diversity in allowing these characters the chance to be respected.

Image description: Another promo image from Ghosts, this one featuring all the ghosts, as well as Sam and Jay.

As I said in my intro, it’s so easy to ask if these issues are really that big of a deal. In the age of social media, I always find myself worried that bringing up these issues will make me sound like a whiner or a narcissist, trying to make mountains out of molehills the way you see in comments sections of YouTube videos or in extremely pedantic threads on popular websites. This is something I’ve wrestled with for many years and have often explored in my posts, trying to find a balance between knowing that certain things just aren’t meant for me and being able to talk about actual instances of ignorance, misinformation, or blatant discrimination.

I, of course, I’m not conceited enough to think that me complaining about these things will make a difference, nor do I expect these things to just magically happen overnight. But that’s sort of the point. These things require effort, but they can’t happen at all if that effort is never made. In my opinion, step one has to be basic respect upon which a strong foundation can be built, and that can only happen if we discuss these things and explore them.

As much as I always talk about representation and as much as I hope for aspec representation in media in the future, I’d like to see respect become a focus first, and I truly believe this doesn’t have to be difficult or complicated. By choosing not to mock non-sexual and/or non-romantic characters, by not relying on aphobic tropes to craft jokes, and by eschewing character archetypes that are meant to misrepresent people, we can make our media better. And, if fandoms like the Ghosts fandom can learn to reject media’s tendency to do these things, we can make our media more respectful – something that can only be a net positive for everyone, whether aspec or not.

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